#25: I Am A Criminal
It's the 25th episode! Zoe opens up about the reality of traveling with a DUI—what happens at the border, how the paperwork works, and what it feels like navigating sobriety alongside all that stress. Heather and Zoe also get into the recent flight attendant strike, the wild fact that pilots aren't allowed to go to therapy, and what that says about mental health in high-pressure jobs.
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I Am A Criminal: Transcript
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Hi Zoe. Hi, Heather. How are you? I'm good. Duh. How's your mental? My mental is good. Welcome back to Girl Undrunk, everything. Oh, hey, Undrunkies. I'm Heather. That's Zoe. That's Heather. I'm Zoe. Yeah. If you, if you, uh, get us confused sometimes, it's fine because we're basically the same person. We both have our periods right now.
We do. We both had our morning shit together. Not together, but, but almost. But basically, but basically you knew, you knew about mine. I knew about yours. Yep. We got a little, little Eddie's here today. Today I'm doing this little [00:01:00] Collins Collins. Collins Collins, which for sure I drank the alcoholic version when I was a drinker, but I don't remember how.
It's just Collins, not a Tom Collins. I know you know Well, because maybe it's a little more feminine. Maybe it's like a Tina Collins. Yeah. I'm gonna try. I'm doing the Mez Kalita. Alright. 8:00 AM Here we go crack. We're doing an early morning pod today because DJ does this count as the clap because which I always forget to do the clap.
I clapped. Oh, you did? You didn't hear me clap. You're so on it. Yes. You're the smartest girl in the whole world. Okay. I'm nervous about this one.
My pinky went way up when I sipped that. Oh. It went like, woo. I think mine did too. Okay. You know what? Try that. I think you'll like it. Mine is such like a mouthfeel. There's a lot going on in a good way. It's soy. She doesn't like this. The spicy, I think it's, is it spicy to you?[00:02:00]
Is its spicy or too smoky? It's too smoky. Okay. If I definitely do like this one better. Yeah. This one was a hit at my party because my friends Mary Ellen and Arianne loved it. Yeah. Yeah. They're very like European smoky. Yeah. They like the of it all. Yes. I need to put this back in my mouth. I think JJ liked that one too.
I do like that one better, but yeah. Yeah. I'm so sensitive to things. Edna's. If you wanna try Edna's cocktails, go over to edna's cocktails.com. Code edna's. Ten four, 10% off. Let's get mocktails going. It's Edna. It's time for her fall. It's time to get cozy with a fake gin. Fuck yes. Yeah. Fake gin and memories with your friends.
Love it. It's all I want. Oh, ZZA bear. How are you do? How am I doing? I'm good. Yesterday was a huge day. We did so many things. Yo, yesterday, the past like 48 [00:03:00] hours. Yeah. It was insane. Insane, insane. I don't understand. We've spent so much time together. Yeah. How do you, we've seen each other every single day for the past five days.
Is that true? Well, we saw each other Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Now it's Tuesday. What was Friday? How we counted. Oh, we recorded Friday. We recorded Friday. What did we do Saturday? We went to the cottage on Saturday night. We spent all day at the cottage on Sunday. Oh my God. We spent all day yesterday together.
Yeah. And now we're recording and it's Tuesday morning. I, you know what? And then I'm gonna see her again tomorrow at boxing. But then I won't see you again for like a week. Yeah. That's gonna be weird. Yeah. Um, yeah. That was a long time to spend together. I feel like I don't do that usually with people.
Mm-hmm. It makes me nervous, but I feel like you're so fine. That was great. Yeah. I loved it. Yay. You didn't even realize it was that long. No, I didn't. Yeah. I like you more now. Yay. I think that was a really fun weekend. I was a little nervous. I was like, oh my God. Driving to the cottage. It's three hours.
We're gonna be there for like a [00:04:00] day. Mm-hmm. That was the most fucking fun. Yeah, it was. I thought it was gonna be like stressful too, and like not enough time, but it was. Obviously I would've loved to stay longer. Mm-hmm. But it was, it didn't feel too short. No, it was great. It was great. And I, we went paddle boarding around.
We drank so many mocktails. We had hot dogs. I threw a mocktail, mocktail down my throat. A mocktail down. Your throat went everywhere. Oh yeah. We were, we were, shit. You banged a can on your head. I did. I crushed a can on my head. Like a real camp girl. Yeah. It's funny. You're so camp. I'm so camp I, but did you see any animals out there?
No, but I killed a spider this morning. Tell me everything about it. Well, how big was it? As big as the one that was on my dog? No, the one on your dock was actually, yeah. The size of my hand. It was really scary. It was huge. Yeah. The one I found today was just like a tiny little boy, but I was. How did you get in here?
I like was grabbing my pants from the floor. 'cause I did wear these yesterday. [00:05:00] Um, and then the spider like ran out of them. It is really crazy when a spider appears and you're like. Like sometimes like I've had a spider just like on my pillow before, and I'm like, yeah, you've just been, I just try not to think about it too much.
I'm like, okay, the spider is here and now I killed the spider and I flush it down the toilet. Now it's gone and there will be no more spiders. Last night, oh my God, you were in my dream last night. Oh my God. Yay. That's how much we're spending time together. Seriously. But it was so weird. So I, the sound of like, you know when you turn on the, the gas stove and it's like tick, tick, tick, tick.
That kept fucking happening in my dream. Like I kept interesting hearing it all fucking night and I kept waking up. I slept like every hour I was waking up. What the heck is that sound? And in my dream you were downstairs turning on the, the stove. Really? Zoe's cooking at I was fucking with you. No, you were like, in my dream.
You were like cooking eggs or something. Yeah. You were doing something. Yeah. But it just, I was like, oh my god, Zoe. It's not turning on like it's not working, it's just ticking. Yeah. But I think there was a cricket in my house. I think that's making that [00:06:00] sound. Yes. 'cause it was like, and then it would like, and then I would sit up and flash my flashlight and it would stop.
And I'm like, there's a fucking bug in here. There's a goddamn cricket. And he followed me back from the woods, from the park. It pissed me off. I couldn't find him. But we're not a hundred percent sure if it was your dream or if it's a real life. No. 'cause then I was awake and I was hearing, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So maybe interesting. Maybe there's a bomb in my house somewhere. I'm scared for you now. Well, let me know if you hear it again tonight. Well, that's what I was gonna say, being like at the cottage in the country, it's like, if there's a bug in the house, I'm like, oh, that's just an indoors outdoors kind of situation.
Yeah. But when I'm here in my ivory tower, I'm like. Who invited you? Yeah. Well it also freaks me out too. 'cause I'm like on the 39th floor. So I'm like, how did this thing even get up here? I know. Well, he followed you. He was in your pants all night. That's, he wasn't in my pants all night. I'm not gonna, he was wanna say, I don't want that to be true.
I'm not gonna go there. But it is crazy. It's like, does the spider crawl in [00:07:00] from the outdoors? And then he, he makes him, and then he is like, oh, it's warm in here. And then he just for it takes so long that he gets to the elevator. Gets into the elevator. Yeah. With a group of unsuspecting strangers. Takes it up to the 39th floor and says, what a nice stop.
No, like he must be so confused when he gets up there. He is like, where's all my friends? Well, that's how I feel like when you have a fly in your car. Yeah. And you're like, oh my God, I'm taking you away from everybody. Exactly. Like, we're going on, we're going to like, I remember going to Florida with my parents and there being a spider in the car and I'm like.
You're an expat babe. Yeah. Oh no. Sorry. We took you, sorry we took you, but we never know. We kidnapped you. Maybe they were having a bad life and it was actually the best situation possible. Let's say that like, there's a dog missing from the park right now and he keeps getting spotted near the train tracks and I'm like, yeah, he's probably really, he's probably on there.
Yeah. No, I'm, I'm good. I am leaving for London on Thursday. I haven't started packing at all. Do you know what you're packing? So Alexia has most stuff there, so if I forget something or if I [00:08:00] need a jacket or if I need a pair of shoes or something, I'll just borrow hers. So that is taking the stress off a bit.
Mm-hmm. I'm gonna use her hair products, her makeup, if I need, like, I'm gonna be fine. Yeah. So what kind of, what kind of skincare are you bringing over? I'm gonna bring a vitamin C, a retinol and my moisturizer face wash. Right. Face wash too. Okay. And my sunscreen's. That's all you do. Yeah, that's good. And guess I'm probably gonna bring my mask as well, 'cause I'm there for so long.
My red light mask. Are you gonna bring that to Italy too? Yeah. Yeah. Can you take that? Yeah, that's a carry on item. Yeah. I don't think I would be able to charge it in Italy. I need to figure out the charging situation. Yeah, either, either Alexia will already have a thing. Yeah. Or they're everywhere, you know?
Yeah. And you get airport and I'm Portugal, I'm saying at Airbnbs. So that will be a little bit hopeful. Hopefully that goes well. Well I have one I'll bring, I'll just give you my converter. I might need one for Portugal. Yeah. 'cause I don't know, I don't know if Airbnbs will do that. I don't [00:09:00] know. Um, but yeah, I am feeling good.
I'm feeling excited slash like nervous just 'cause like I haven't started packing or anything. Yeah. Um, I don't think I'm gonna wash my hair until. Thursday, it's gonna be slicked back for 48 hours. Tell you. That's fine. That's fine. That's easy. Your hair looks great. Slicked back. Thank you. I did a low today.
I like it. I did the, I put the, got to be shit in my hair and it's still fucking, there's nothing I can do. Do you wet it first and then put the gel in it? Mm-hmm. Try that. Okay. I wet my brush that I slick it back with, and then I put the gel in. Okay. After. Okay. I'll try that. Yeah. Hoy boy. Hoy boy. What a whole thing.
Um, but my mental health is good. I feel like. Yeah. I feel good. We had a really good chat yesterday. Yeah. We had a really good meeting. Yeah. I feel like we're all aligned again. Yeah. So many things happening with the podcast. [00:10:00] So many things so fast, so many things so fast. And like the more we do, the better we get, the more like.
The better the editing gets. Yeah, the better. Like the more nitpicky they can get. Yeah. Because you know, and it's really, it's really good. I mean, it's all good things. Yeah. It just, I love our little community. I know, I do too, by the way, should we tell them the news? In case everyone wants to come. I was like, what News course.
Okay. On date of September 6th Uhhuh at eight o'clock. Get there for seven 30 though, guys. Pm. Pm Don't get crazy. Don't get there early. Oh my God. We're doing a live recording, a live podcast recording at zero bar in Cabbagetown. Yes. So we're gonna be talking to Gail, the owner. Mm-hmm. And then we're gonna open it up to questions or if you just wanna talk to us for a bit.
Yeah. Just wanna chill out. Hmm. Come. Yeah. You don't have to, you don't have to like speak on the pod. You don't have to ask any questions, but We'll, we'll be, there you come. You just wanna [00:11:00] meet us after. Yeah. If you wanna walk around zero bar. It's really cool. Just wanna a mocktail. They have everything.
It's such a good, literally have everything. It's a cool bottle shop. They have like wine, liquor, everything, but all non-alcoholic. Yeah, it's great. Um, but yeah, that'll be really exciting. So we're doing that. Yeah, that's, I'm really excited. I don't know what to expect really, but it's gonna be good vibes overall, so it's gonna be, I'm excited.
It's always good vibes with Gail. Really, truly, always good vibes with Gail. Like that person is just ready to go. I'm excited. I trust her with my life. I do too. I do think that if I did that it would be a, it would be a ride. Yeah. But like, I'm here for that. I want a wildlife. I wanna live wild and on the edge and being sober, you know?
Yeah. I kind of do too. But I also love a curfew. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, can we be wild with a curfew? I think Yale gets to bed early. Yeah. I can't see her being out late, but she seems like the type of person that's like, yeah, I go to bed early, like 2:00 AM. Yeah. You know? What would you rate your mental, like a six, [00:12:00] I guess.
I think I'm gonna stay at a six too. I think I was a six LA last week. I think I'm a six this week. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I'm good. Like we had a really fun few days. Yeah. But like, and like I can be super happy and thrilled. Mm-hmm. But my mental, yeah, my mental's at a six, I, yeah, I think it maybe a six five. Just still juggling and it's, I can't see like clarity.
Mm-hmm. So it's just like, way over what, getting to London. I'm like, there's so much to do. Yeah. It is, it's a lot of unknowns too. That's, I think what it is. It's like when I know everything's set up, I'm, I'm okay. Mm-hmm. But there's just so much to do still, so it's fine. Yeah. We went to get our nails done yesterday and had a little day with our well Zoe's friend and my new friend Carly.
Yeah. So cute. So perfect. And. Carly was telling you a story about an Uber experience Yeah. That she had after listening to our Uber podcast. Yeah. So last week was our Uber episode. Mm-hmm. And she [00:13:00] texted me on like maybe Saturday saying that she called an Uber and she was waiting for it. This guy comes out of his car and says, Hey, I like I'm your Uber.
Like, get in. And she was like, oh no, you're not. Like the license plate doesn't match and you're not the person on the app. And he's like, yeah, but it just hasn't switched over yet. Like, it's taking forever. And Kylie's like, well, no, I'm not getting into your car. And he was like, no, come on. Like it's fine.
And she said, no, I'm not. Like, I'm just gonna wait for the next one. And I don't know if she would've, she probably would've still done that, even if she didn't just listen to our episode before, because she is a very safe girl. Yeah. But it's just crazy how she listened to the episode and then the next day that happens to her.
Yeah. Yeah. It's really scary. 'cause I, I, it is, you can't, and everyone we've like, kind of like said that to, has been like, oh yeah, I've done that too. Yeah. Like, I've gotten into a car that didn't match the same, and I, I've called them out. I was like, Hey, your thing doesn't match. Yeah. Because we've had, I mean, we said this last [00:14:00] time, but there was like a, a, a, like a, a kidnapping thing going on here.
I've called. I called him out and was like, your license plate doesn't match. And he was like, oh yeah. Like I just got a new car. Yeah. And it hasn't updated. And that's what Carly said that her Uber driver said. Yeah. And I was like, oh, you, you just can't drive then. That's not on me. Yeah. Like that's on Uber and you, and that's your job.
So you have to call Uber. Mm-hmm. And make sure that everything is like updated before you come and pick up girls. Yeah. It's crazy. It is. Because, because No, fuck you. Like you're putting me in a situation now where I have to be like, feel uncomfortable to say no. Yeah. And it is. And now I'm fucking late.
Yeah. And you're, you did this to me. Mm-hmm. You put me in this fucking situation, but then you are somehow the victim because Uber hasn't updated it. It's like, fuck you. Well it's funny 'cause she waited for another car and then she brought it up to the next Uber driver. Yeah. And the next Uber driver was like, yeah, no, that's weird.
Like it's good that you didn't get into that car. Yeah. And, [00:15:00] and like, we can be like, oh yeah, no, Uber, like Uber does their best. They like want, you know, they will be updating it. It's like, well we already know that Uber doesn't do their best, doesn't give a fuck Yeah. About sexual assault. And, and if they do, it's like we care a little bit.
Mm-hmm. But you can still keep driving, so No. Yeah. So I would just say like, if, just make sure it's matching. Make sure it's matching and it's not, it's just not worth it. It's not to just be like, okay, yeah, it's fine. I understand it's uncomfortable, but you can even say like, oh, like I forgot something upstairs.
Like, I'm gonna get the next one. Yeah. I mean like, you don't need to be like, oh, you don't match. Like if you feel uncomfortable, like announcing that. That's true. She be like, oh, I forgot something upstairs. Like, I'm gonna get the next one. Yeah. Or even if you're like in your condo building and you like look out and you see your Uber and you're like, that is not the f.
Yeah. You can just text them and be like, doesn't match not coming. Yeah. Fuck you. Exactly. Cancel, cancel. And then before to Uber. Uber. And then just, Uber's usually pretty good getting the money back. Yeah. Just that kind of stuff. Just that screenshot it. Yeah. And say like. This is not the right car. [00:16:00] Yeah. And no, it's, it's, it's not appropriate.
Yeah. It's really not appropriate to get into an unmarked car. Like what the, the fuck, not like as anybody. Mm-hmm. Like as man, like, just don't, it's also like shocking to me that a man would be like, oh yeah, they'll be fine with it. Yeah, it's fine. I'll just tell them that like, my car is is new. They're just dumb little girls.
Yeah. No, why not? And like the contract that you and me sign is that I'm gonna show up as who I say I am. Mm-hmm. And you're gonna show up as who you say you are. Yeah. And that's how it keeps both of us safe. So, no, I'm sorry you didn't hold up your end of the bargain. I'm not getting in your car. Yeah. It's very serious.
Yeah. It's very fucking serious. The fact that he jumped out of the car too. Yeah. It's just like another just red flag. Yeah. I don't like it. I'm in the car. Little girl. I don't like it. I don't like it. So your trip is coming up. Yeah. Very exciting. And I guess one of the things we've really been talking about is your.
DUI. Yes. And traveling with your DUI. Yeah. Do you wanna [00:17:00] explain a little bit about what your SI situation has been? Yes. So what I got my DUI maybe in like June of 2022. Mm-hmm. Um, and then after I went to New York and I went to Detroit. Mm-hmm. And everything was fine. They didn't ask about my DUI, they didn't ask for fingerprints.
They didn't bring it up once. So I was like, okay, like I'm good. I didn't think, I wasn't not gonna be good. 'cause with the states, it's only if you get a drug charge that they like stop you and don't let you in. Right. For alcohol, it's fine. Mm-hmm. Like, they'll let you in. So, and then I was going to Reno to visit my friend and they asked me for my fingerprints and I was like, oh no, what's happening?
Yeah. This was at Toronto Pearson Airport and then they pulled me aside for second inspection. And I was waiting in there for like an hour. My flight was taking off in like half an [00:18:00] hour. Like I was very scared that I was gonna miss my flight. Mm-hmm. They said, okay, so where's your paperwork? And I said, no one asked me to bring my paperwork.
Mm-hmm. I don't know if they sent it to the wrong address. I don't know where it would've gone to. Yeah. I said, I didn't get any paperwork. I don't know what you're saying. And they said, well, in the system it says that you have a drug charge. And I said, no, I promise it's only an alcohol charge. I'm also like, how many?
Like you're sober. Yeah. They obviously don't care. Mm-hmm. Um, and they were basically like, yeah, like you were supposed to bring paperwork. You're not allowed to go on this flight. I said, come on, please. Like my flight is leaving soon. Like, I don't know reason, I don't know what to do. I don't freak out on the at them.
Yeah. Which I would have before. Yeah. You know, so I was really trying to be calm, cool, and collected. And honestly at the end of the day, I was fine with not getting on that flight if they didn't let me. Okay. Because I have to be okay with the decisions I made before adapting. Adapting. I'm [00:19:00] like, okay, if it wasn't meant to be, it's fine.
I don't need to go. But I was like, like I was Yeah. Kind of like begging them Come on this way. Yeah. Like, I didn't know. I don't know if there's anything you guys can do. Yeah. Meanwhile, I am a white pretty woman. Yeah. Yeah. So they did say yes. They said, okay, you can go on this flight, we cleared you. Mm-hmm.
And I asked them, do I need to bring my paperwork for next time? And they said, no, like we cleared you, you're good. So I'm like, okay, no problem. I tell my mom this, um, she sends me some paperwork for just in case for the next time I travel. Mm-hmm. I go to Detroit like a few months after with. My new boyfriend and his sister, first time meeting his sister, we get pulled over and we're driving, oh, we're driving instead of flying now.
And the guy goes, okay, Zoe, where's your paperwork? And I say, okay, well the last people at the airport didn't say I needed to bring it, but my mom did send me something. Let me go into the car to get my phone to show you. Mm-hmm. Because you're not allowed to bring your [00:20:00] phone into like these situations. Oh yeah.
Yeah. When you get pulled in for a second inspection, you're not allowed to go on your phone at all. Yeah. So I bring them the phone and show it to them and he goes, oh, this is the wrong paperwork. It doesn't say in here that it's just alcohol. And I'm like, oh God. Oh God. They don't talk to each other, the systems.
No. And also I had gone to. States twice before this situation started happening. And it's because the system updated, which means Trump updated the system. Yeah. The systems don't talk to each other. So like we in Canada differentiate alcohol and drugs. Yeah. They combine it. They combine them, which by the way, alcohol and drugs are the same fucking thing.
Yeah. But you still should be allowed in. Yeah. And like that's the crazy thing too. It's like you got your DUI and then no one was like, Hey, by the way, when you travel, these are the things you have to do. Exactly. Unless I'm just a super girl and I should know these things, but I don't. So I think there's probably lots of people in my boat that are, have this.
Oh my God, I bet. Like everybody. [00:21:00] Yeah. Who the fuck? Yeah. So anyways, again, I start begging him to let me in and like I said, pretty white girl, they let me in. Yeah. But he goes, this is the last time that you will be let into the states without your paperwork. Mm-hmm. I'm putting like a red flag on your like passport.
Like you're not allowed back. I have one too without your paperwork one. And I was like, yes sir. I understand. Thank you so much. And I go on my way. They also take my phone and ask me for the password and take it in the back. And I'm like, oh, they're definitely watching all of my porn on there. What the fuck?
Because I have all of my videos back there. Wait, can they do that? I don't know. I can take Why did they take your phone? I don't know. Ew. I don't remember why they took my phone also. That's terrifying. Because if like I had texted you being like, bring your paperwork, or Trump's gonna fuck you in the ass with this big orange dick.
Literally, then what if they arrested you for being like. A ma Patriot? Yeah. Like, I don't know. Or like, what did they do? Did they airdrop all of my shit onto someone's like [00:22:00] computer? Like, I don't know. Well, they went through your stuff. They went through your videos for sure. They did for sure. A hundred percent creeps.
Um, and then I was going to, where was I going recently? In the States. Oh, I was going to Nashville. Oh yeah. And I had to contact my lawyer for my paperwork, had to send her a hundred dollars and it was good. It says like, it says drugs and alcohol on the paperwork and that drugs is crossed off. Okay. So I'm like, okay, that looks legit.
I bring it when I get pulled over to second inspection at Toronto, Pearson, I bring my paperwork and they say, oh, weird. It doesn't say that in our system. And I say, yeah, weird. Yeah. Fucking weird guys. You keep going. I'm you keep going. Just weird. And then so they scan it and they apparently put it in like my file.
So hopefully they did not, that doesn't happen again. I don't think they do. But this is also like only the going to the states. When [00:23:00] I went to Costa Rica last year, this didn't happen. I'm very curious if they will pull me aside at all to be going to London. Yeah, I looked it up, I'm assuming. No, I looked it up and it just said like.
You definitely can get in. Yeah. Like it's, they're not gonna stop you. Yeah. But just be prepared to answer questions. Yeah. But that's okay. So I'm definitely bringing my paperwork. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously would, I would never travel anywhere without, without it now. Yeah. So just bringing that and, um, yeah, I guess just being like prepared to go into second inspection, which sucks because like I do need to get to the airport earlier than everybody now.
Yeah. I used to do that when I would, 'cause I had a visa for Boston. Mm-hmm. So I would have to go early. Yeah. So I was getting, I'd get you get pulled in every time. Yeah. Yeah. It's scary in there. It is fucking scary. And they're, I hate it. They're also not nice. No. I'm like, well, yeah, you have these like.
Uneducated men sitting in an isolated windowless room mm-hmm. All day. They're going nuts. They're also like making jokes to each other. Like when I was in [00:24:00] there, they're like joking with each other and just like having good time. Like really not caring about us at all. Oh, are you fucking kidding? Yeah.
I've been pulled over to a secondary inspection so many times and they treated me like I was psycho. And if they're treating psycho us like that, then like imagine what they're treating. Like, oh, I've seen it. Yeah. It's, I've heard like a, an officer be like, like if you can't speak English, then how are we even gonna do this?
I'm like, first of all sir, so fucked up. If you wanna work for the government, maybe you should speak the one other language that's spoken in the United States, which is Spanish. It's literally not hard. I learned it in two years for love. Yeah. So chill out brother. Or like, have someone there that can talk to them.
Yeah. Like, I don't, they don't, but they don't want to. Yeah. When I, um, when I, I went once and they. They don't understand the visas, somehow they don't understand the most basic simple, like Canadian to American visa. I honestly, it's very confusing, all of it. Oh yeah. But I wasn't confused, but it's their job to know.
But I wasn't confused. Yeah. I had my full binder. I know. Exact I know everything. [00:25:00] Yeah. About my specific situation. And they were joking with each other being like, I don't know, should we let her in? And I'm like, crazy. The fuck are you talking about? Because sir, catch me outside. That's why. And like learning this as addicts of like being adaptive and being like just kind.
Yeah. Because if you catch someone on a fucking bad day and they just wanna fuck someone Yeah. They're not gonna let you in. Exactly. And that's the thing, like I was, when that first happened, when I was trying to go to Reno, I was really proud of myself for not like crying hysterically. Mm-hmm. Or like being like very like loud and visually combative, upset like I was.
Trying to stay as calm and cool and collected as I could. Like I was thinking just like of my sponsor and like all the work that I've done. Yeah. Good. And I was proud that I didn't, 'cause I, I would've easily done that before. Oh yeah. So it's just like cool to, to have like a different side of me, but [00:26:00] it all worked out.
Yeah. Which I'm. Very thankful it did. But you're like, be careful. It's always gonna be a little bit stressful now flying for the rest of my life. Is it the rest of your life or does it get expunged after like 10 years? I don't know. Dunno. Yeah, you have to be careful because hopefully it gets expunged.
Even if you're a pretty white woman, they're gonna fucking chuck you into Guantanamo, no questions asked, no phone. Then I have to come over to go on Tomo. You need to find me. I'll get you. I'll fucking get you. I don't care. Okay. God. Um, yeah. Do you, um, how does it make you feel when you get pulled over for secondary inspection?
Because of a DUI? Like do you feel ashamed or do you feel scared or what's the vibe? I am, I think it's just like this is who I am. Mm-hmm. You know, at the end of the day, I am an addict. I did get a DUI, like I am a criminal. Like this is just, I've accepted it. Yeah. And. I don't know if it's shameful. I'm just, it's like, it's just a part of me that yeah.
I have to accept and I [00:27:00] made that decision. Well, I wonder what people feel and I made that mistake. Yeah. I wonder how people feel sometimes, like, you know, you, you're in aa. Mm-hmm. So you, like, you do have all this like ability to be objective. Mm-hmm. I wonder if some people would feel like, oh, I don't even wanna try.
'cause I don't wanna tell people I'm, I have a DUI, I don't want them to know, I don't want that on my rec. Like, I don't want to have to have that conversation. 'cause it's embarrassing. Yeah. I mean, I guess I'm not embarrassed because I've done so much work now and I am sober and I am so proud of my sobriety mm-hmm.
That my sobriety over counts. Like the, the DUI like. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, I think it does. I just imagine some people would feel that is true. Ooh, I don't wanna go. I'm now I have to go with a friend and they're, I'm gonna get pulled over 'cause I have this fucking DUI. Yeah. But I think it's okay. It's just like, things happen in life.
Things happen in life, and if people are gonna judge you for that, then fuck them. Yeah. Like travel by yourself. Yeah. Go there early. Do the things you need to do. Yeah. You know? [00:28:00] And the, I don't think it should limit yourself from traveling. No. And that can be a goal of yours to work up to, you know? Yeah.
And the el Fishers that work at the, at the customs, they are not, um, they're not sober. So, so you're better than them. Yeah. That was great. So just like, keep your mouth shut, get your paperwork and be kind. Yeah. And fly away. Deep breaths. And like, I know it's so stressful in there. It's hard to like stay calm, but.
If I can do it, you can do it. Totally. Yeah. Just, yeah, just be prepared. Yeah. And just know, know your case so well that like you can speak to it. That's what you gotta do. Yeah. Hey, YY Yi. Speaking of Air Canada. Well, speaking of flying Yeah. Air Canada it is over now. The, they have been, I dunno what you call it, there's been a resolution, I guess.
Yeah. But all of the Air Canada flight attendants went on strike. Mm-hmm. Crazy. Crazy. Always makes me nervous when there's, that was like for two weeks too. That was long. I know, guys, it's nuts. It's like [00:29:00] when the, it's like the post office goes on strike every Christmas and we're like, ah, yeah. And then it's, it's like the 23rd and they're like, we're back.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm too late. A little bit too late. I'm like, I'm already on route. Yeah. But let's talk about it for a little bit, because as a frequent flyer mm-hmm. I would fucking hate to be a flight attendant. I have. I So getting out of rehab, I was thinking about getting, being a flight attendant.
Mm-hmm. Hey. Okay. And. My rehab boyfriend's aunt was a flight attendant. I actually called her and spoke to her on the phone about it and she was like, honestly, it's really hard if you don't speak another language. Okay. Oh. And I said, okay, bet. And then I saw how much they get paid and I was like, okay, bet I'm not doing it.
Did you see how much it was? Um, it was, it wasn't like even close to a hundred a year. Oh, fuck no. No. Definitely not. No. Um, I guess in Canada you probably have to speak French. You don't have to. You don't have to. Okay. But it was, she said it was just like really, really hard to [00:30:00] like get in. Yeah. Unless like, you know, someone who knows someone, you know, I'm on planes all the time and I feel like I've never, I mean, I never speak to anybody.
Yeah, right. But like, I don't really hear a lot of French speaking people who can't speak English. Yeah, yeah. Like everyone can speak English. Yeah. But it's Canada, so we have to put French first. Yeah. I think, um. I just like was in the service industry forever. Yeah. So I thought like, oh, maybe I'd be good at this coming outta rehab.
What am I gonna do? You would probably be good at it. Yeah. I just am like, why would somebody Yeah. Want to like, huh. Service industry's so fucking crazy. You know what we're gonna talk about? We were gonna talk about how pilots can't go to therapy. Let's talk about this. This is so fucking crazy. I know. So I'm glad I fucking remember.
Yeah. Because that was it. I think like, I don't even, like who I, my mom, we, we talk, I mean we talk about this shit all the time, but pilots mm-hmm. Are not supposed to go to therapy. They're not really allowed to. Mm-hmm. Because to be a pilot, you have to be mentally sound and mentally [00:31:00] stable. And going to therapy proves that you have mental issues that you need to work through, which is the complete opposite.
Going to therapy means you're like mentally sound and like aware of your emotions. Yeah. And like not so fucking quick to trigger and good in emergencies. Yeah. It's the most. Insane diluted thing. It's well, and it's like, it's 2025 guys. Like Yeah. Therapy isn't supposed to be, um, judgmental or like put down, it's not an insane asylum.
Yeah. Like you're not mental, like you're literally like, I'm mental, but you're not. Same like Yeah. It's a huge stigma still. Yeah. And that like really proves, proves it. That proves it. Yeah. Well, because being a pilot is like one of the like most whatever, like, it's like very a high, it's a high ranking job.
It definitely used to be back in the day, like yeah, it is still now. But I think people worshiped pilots back in the day. 'cause it's like, oh my God, you're flying. Yeah. Because like, the only thing there really was to do [00:32:00] was be like a businessman or a pilot. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know. It's not a great, or like anybody that was like in wartime, they're like, you fly a plane.
Mm-hmm. Okay. But there's this thing, you can look it up, it's like, um. There's like a compilation of Of pilots and their co-pilots and often when planes crash. Yeah. The co-pilot does not say anything. Like the co-pilot does not feel like they're able to speak to the pilot. 'cause they're like a lower ranking pilot.
Got it. So they don't feel like they can say something. Okay. That is what it is. Also, in the military, you do not, you do not go against your fucking sergeant. You do not speak up. Like you don't, you just follow their fucking rules. And are you saying like if they could communicate with each other, maybe complaints wouldn't crash?
Yes. Because you hear sometimes. Mm-hmm. You'll hear the planes going down. Mm-hmm. And the copilot will say [00:33:00] something. Mm-hmm. And the pilot doesn't listen. Yeah. Or like disagrees or it's like volatile. Mm-hmm. Like. It's just the weirdest Yeah. Thing in the world that like they aren't, there's a system set up where like he's the grandpa ball.
Yeah. And you shut the fuck up. And what he says goes, but it's like if you two could trust each other Yeah. And have communication Co-pilot, literally co-pilot. He's not just there to suck your dick on long rides, babe. I mean, you could do that too. He could do that too, but communicate, communicate while you're sucking.
Tell him, tell him what you like. Tell him you like your balls cupped after you come. Okay. We all do. We all do. I, I, yeah. It it, I didn't know that. Yeah. I think you told me that like a month or two ago. Mm-hmm. That was shocking to me. It's shocking because, yeah, we think like therapy is like less stigmatized now.
Mm-hmm. And um, it's so good to go to therapy, but then we don't let pilots drive. Plane if they go. Yeah. [00:34:00] And that's like, I have interacted with some pilots before when I was drunk at a hotel. I was talking to this guy smoking a cigarette, and I'm like, what do you do? He said, I'm a pilot. And he was so fucking miserable.
I bet you he was not a pilot. No. I think, yeah. I'm just kidding. Think he was like wearing his shit. Yeah. And it was Christmas and he is like, it sucks. Like I can't be with my family. I am really sad. He wasn't trying to fuck me or anything. Wow. I was trying to probably fuck him, but he was not. Um, but he looked just like so sad in the eyes and it's like these Yeah.
They're, these pilots are away from their families. Yeah. For a long time. Yeah. It would be amazing for them to go to therapy and talk that those feelings out. Yes. I agree. It's, it's this thing of like going to therapy is. A thing that happens after something happens. It's like a, it's like a, like, um, a solution to a problem.
Mm-hmm. But that's how a therapy is. You're, you go to therapy as you're like growing and changing Yeah. And being a person in your day-to-day life. Like, I go to therapy and I'm not always like, I was traumatized as a child. I go to therapy and I'm like, [00:35:00] I didn't like that I did this yesterday. That's exactly right.
Yeah. Like, or, or things like in the future, if this comes up, this is how I wanna talk to Zoe about Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. It's not always about like an immediate thing. And I feel like that's the way they and men Yeah. Often think about therapy. It's like, something's wrong with you, you have to go. It's like, no.
No. Well, because pilots are usually men as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And flight attendants are usually are historically women. Yeah. Same with caretakers and nurses. And that's why they get paid pennies. Yeah. Even though they do all the work. Yeah. But yeah, the therapy thing, it's just, it feels like such a. Such a clear idea of how people still think of therapy.
Yeah. And that's shocking to me because I've been in therapy for fucking ever. Yeah. Like my dad is in therapy now. Guys. Go to therapy. Go to therapy. Yeah. Well, it's a comes back last week where I was saying like, oh, every, like Air Canada should pay for the pilot's therapy. Like [00:36:00] Yes. Para the paramedics pay for therapy for them.
Oh yeah, they do. They must. Right. Like my friend's boyfriend has so much insurance to go towards therapy. He doesn't use it. Liam, use it. Use it. It's incredibly important. Incredibly. We don't have a job that is so terrifying. Mm-hmm. That people could lose their fucking lives. That's the other thing. Like they.
They are constant. Like we're hearing all the time about plane crashes in the news. Yeah. This is their job. That's so scary. Scary. Those, they're like fellow people that are crashing and dying and like it's possible. Yeah. That alone is like, you need to go to therapy and make sure that you're okay. Yeah. A hundred percent.
It doesn't make any sense to me like, what is going on. Well, I think, I think it's really hard for men and CEOs of things and rule makers to talk about emotions. Mm-hmm. All they wanna do is talk about money and that's why pilots make a fuck ton. Mm-hmm. Instead of the CEOs and nobody [00:37:00] else fucking matters.
Well, at least now Air Canada is getting paid a little bit more. Yeah. Which is great. My ex, the ex I had when I went into rehab. Yeah. I'm so sorry. I know I'm the worst. I know that. But, um, he was in the Navy. Okay. The Canadian Navy. Which like, what do you guys even do by the way? What are you doing? I follow someone who knew, it's a random, I knew in Sarnia and he's in the Army and he just like posts Instagram stories of him like in a plane and like jumping out of a plane and like on a boat.
Are they, are they like in the war? I think they're just like training. They're just chilling. Eh? They're hanging out. Hanging out. Training. Like, I obviously know you guys do more than that, but like, what do you do? And like, let, lemme know what you do. Yeah. Like we're not going to the war anytime. Well, we might be.
We might be. I'm not going, I think they're just like preparing. I'm not going, I will shoot myself in the foot immediately so I don't have to go, or I'll try. Try. You're not going, I thought you would wanna go to war. [00:38:00] I don't. But with the zombie a call. I don't wanna take a four hour shuttle, like a zombie apocalypse.
You wanna fight? I wanna kill myself. In war, you wanna kill yourself and not fight. The zombie apocalypse feels so much bigger than us. Mm-hmm. I think the thing about war is like, I just like don't agree with like men being like, I disagree with you. I'm gonna fight you because my God said so. Yeah. You're like, well, brother, at least the zombies.
It's like, no, that's a bacteria that's infiltrated everybody. I see. I see. And so now I'm in a thing because of the world, not because of men. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not interested, I'm not interested in my life being put on the line at the hands of men. Okay. Not interested. I'm not going to war. So I'll either get pregnant, go to university, or shoot myself in the foot.
Perfect. Okay. I'll shoot you two. Yeah. We'll shoot each other in the foot. But my ex was in the Navy and he, there was a time where they were going from, I'm gonna make up names, Halifax to Ottawa. Let's pretend that's where they were going and. There was a [00:39:00] major storm and they were just going back, like there was no task.
It was literally just bringing the boat back. Okay. It was a major storm. All of them are on their phones. It's like, we can't do this. Like, we can't take the ship. This is fucking dangerous. Okay. But the guy that the cat, the, the captain was like, no. Like he was being like pompous and he wanted to get back.
So he's like, I'm going. And they went. Yeah. And it was, they all almost died. Yeah. Like it almost capsized. Yeah. He said that like, you couldn't even sit in your bunk. 'cause it's like, you know, those like fishing boat things, but those people like know that's happening. Yeah. This was like, I was like, do you think that he made the wrong choice?
Yeah. And he was like, 100%. Yeah. We all could have died. It's just the ego. And I said, why didn't you or anyone else say anything? Yeah. Because I'm not in the military, so like I don't really get it. And he was like, oh. No. No, you are not allowed. Yeah. If you go against them or I said, then why did you just not get off the fucking boat?
Yeah, just get off the boat. You have personal autonomy. Yeah, but I don't think [00:40:00] you do in the military. Yeah. He was like, if you do that, you get put in like military jail. That's crazy. It's literally the men's egos of it all, like groupthink. Don't, don't need to. Don't risk your lives. I know. That's the thing.
I'm like, and I get it. I guess I get it. Like the woman, we have such intuition. Yeah. And like, I don't know, men don't, yeah. Have any of that. I'd be like, I'm on my period right now in the seas. Look a too crazy for me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, I'm sensing this is not gonna be good for my hormones.
And it's not. But that's like the group think. Yeah. And I kind of get it. Like barbarian times where it was like, I get what it's from. Yeah. The other tribe is coming. You just have to all be on the same page and sacrifice yourselves for your people and go. Mm-hmm. I get that. We're not really in those times anymore.
No. So I just feel like this is really stupid. You're not even at war. Mm-hmm. You're literally just going from one place to the other and you could [00:41:00] die. That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. That's funny. So it's just similar to like the pilots of it all. Yeah. Where it's like, can you guys chill out, join 2025 and read a book and go to therapy?
Yeah. Holy fuck I, yeah, that that is it. Right? That's crazy. The flight attendants. Yes. Let me tell you what their demands were. I think they're getting paid $30 an hour now. Flight attendants. What they're, what The problem basically is that they only get paid once the plane takes off. Yeah. So everything they do before the gate, like checking people in at the gate, getting people's bags, like having people come onto the plane delays.
Mm-hmm. All that shit. They're not getting paid until the plane takes off. Sometimes that's hours and hours and hours. And hours. And a lot of them are working on average, these flight attendants are working up to 35 unpaid hours per month. Yeah. Per attendant. Like each person, you can't do that. Yeah. That's fucking nuts.
I've been stuck on a tarmac for like four hours. Yeah. And they're not getting fucking paid. And people are [00:42:00] evil. And also like, it makes them wanna do their job less. Yeah. Like it makes them wanna do a worse job and like everyone is now more unhappy on that flight. Yeah. Wouldn't you wanna pay them properly so that they're want to take care of these people on the flight?
Yeah. You know? It's a like, I feel like 'cause flight attendants are in a union. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with this fucking union? Because like, all I've ever known about unions is that they are like crappy. Take care of their people. Yeah. Yeah. And they push. And they fight. Yeah. And then we don't get Christmas mail.
Yeah. You know? So I'm like, what's wrong with this fucking union? You can't. But it's like, you know, it is Again, a lot of unions are full of men. Yeah. So it's like, other than teachers and they don't really get paid enough either. But all of these inherently female Yeah. Dominated industries, nobody gives a fuck.
Yeah. It's so shocking. So basically what they want is full hourly pay for all duties performed on the ground, not just while airborne. That feels fair. Yeah. That seems like. That should have been [00:43:00] the case forever ago. Yeah. I mean, tech bros get paid to take Ubers to work so that they can work in the car seriously.
So like guys, the strike included ground pay. So anything before being airborne good, beginning at 50% of hourly rate in one year, increasing to 70% in year four for boarding and related duties. Nonetheless, many flight attendants remain dissatisfied. Seeing even that as insufficient, especially given unpaid delays in overall compensation.
Adequacy. I agree. I I feel like they just bumped it a little bit. Mm-hmm. The CEO makes millions and millions and millions of dollars. Mm-hmm. Like becoming a flight attendant is not easy. Mm-hmm. It's not just like working at Auria. Yeah. It's like, which by the way, very hard to do. It's like the customer service job of the world.
Yeah. I don't get it. All we did during COVID was watch how evil people were to flight [00:44:00] attendants and how much flight attendants have to do. They're not cops, they're like keeping people safe. I don't know. I'm like, pay them more. Yeah. Like, I mean, at least they're paying them now when they're at the airport.
Like, yeah, that is great. Yeah. Um, it just feels a little bit like, okay, here's a little more. Yeah. And not actually understanding Yeah. What the fuck people have been doing for you. Like I was an assistant for a long time and I was like, I'm doing so much fucking work. Yeah. And I'm not getting compensated for it.
Yeah. And now we have this person that's like screaming at you saying like, racial slurs and not putting on their COVID mask. Well, that's the thing. Like, I don't know what you would do in that situation. Like I could not deal with that like Right. There's no one like above you to like be like, yo, come help me.
Yeah. There's no one to ask for help from that. So it's like, yeah, that is insane. That you actually have to be the one that, to deal with that. I could never. Mm-hmm. And yeah, shout out to all the flight attendants that deal with that on a day-to day basis, because that is insane. And [00:45:00] I hope you have good health insurance for therapy as well.
They probably don't. They probably don't. I know. Truly Shout out to the flight attendants. I try to be so fucking nice. Every now and then you get a really fucking bitchy flight attendant. Yeah. And I kind of go, no, but it happens. Whenever I'm on a flight, I just have my headphones on and I don't even really talk to anybody at all.
When people are having a bad time at work, I just wanna be like, well, that's what the money's for, but if the money isn't there, yeah. That's the, that's Then why are we doing a job? Yeah. That's the thing. Mm. When Zoe and I fly on your flights, we're gonna be angels. Yeah. And we don't drink. We're so easy.
Come sit with us. Yeah. Tell me, tell me about it. Tell me about it. So Heather, this is our 25th. This is our 25th. Give me out. Give me out. Yeah. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, brother. This is our 25th episode. Episode. This is our 25th episode. Can you guys believe it? Can you guys believe it? We're a quarter to 100. Oh my god.
That is really, really crazy. Yeah. This is a, it's a long time. We've actually probably done what, like [00:46:00] 30, 32 episodes. In the beginning there, there were a lot of redos. Yeah. In the beginning of the audio. And then at the beginning of the video there was like probably three per, every time we do something new mm-hmm.
We do it twice. Well and exactly right. And when we get guests on, which we are gonna be doing soon, we'll probably have to do a few as well. Mm-hmm. To get used to that. For our 25th, I was gonna say our 25th anniversary. Imagining 25 years, you and me are sitting here being like, it's our 25th anniversary of the God.
Wow. How old will I be? No, I can't talk about that. No, I can't. Um, we wanted to, well, we'll talk about, we wanted to just kind of have peek behind the curtain mm-hmm. And kinda just talk about how we feel about 25. Yeah. Um, and get into some fun confessions later. Yes. But, um, how are you feeling Fucking 25 in?
How are you feeling about me? How are you feeling about this? It's what's going on. It's my [00:47:00] favorite thing ever. Yeah. I think like I'm just, I am just getting even more comfortable with it every time and like loving it more. Mm-hmm. Every episode two, it's not like, I've haven't, like, hey, started to hate it.
I've only started to love it. So like that's a good sign. Yeah. Scary. And, yeah. I just think we're doing like really cool. Like work and helping people and just Yeah. I love chatting with you about this shit. Yeah. It's so fun. That's like, it is really nice to just have like one day, well, we talk about it all the time.
Yeah. But like one day a week where we're intentionally talking, talking about this. Yeah. It's so fucking fun. And it is. It's way less stressful than it was at the beginning. Yeah. At the beginning I was like sweating all the time and throwing up a lot at the beginning too. Like I am not used to talking about this, about sobriety and recovery and my past.
Mm-hmm. In such depth, because I'm not in therapy and you are in therapy, so I think you're a little bit more used to it. Yeah. And [00:48:00] when I started I was like so anxious after. Mm-hmm. And like, like my tummy would hurt. Yeah. I would like, my heart would be beating so fast. Well we kind of had like post not regret about Yeah.
I think some of the things you would say. Yeah. Well I just would forget what we're saying. I. We still forget what we say all the time when we're listening it to it back. I'm like, oh, I wonder if I'm gonna say this. That would be a cool, smart thing to say. Yeah. And then I do say it and I'm like, oh good.
Thank God. Smarty girl. Girl. Yeah. Yeah. It's so nice that, do you remember when I first asked you to do this pod with me? Yes. What? We went to Kla Was that, that must been, that must've been like what November? Was it before Christmas? No. Yeah. No, it was after. 'cause we, I think it was, we launched in March. What am I talking about?
So I wanna say it was probably like January. January? Yeah. I think it was probably January. Mm-hmm. A cold winter's night. It was a cold winter's night. You are wearing your blue button up striped shirt. She remembers what I was wearing. I do. In your gray headband [00:49:00] and uh. I was so nervous 'cause I had talked 'cause we were friends, but we weren't this close.
Yeah. Like we were not, and I had talked to Anne, I was like trying to do the pot on my own and not, couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. Mm-hmm. And they, we both were like, I think because you like having conversations and not just like talking about it. Yeah. And then Anne was like, okay, what do you think about bringing someone on?
And I was like, I don't know. Mm-hmm. I, I just had this vision of what I wanted it to be. I'm not sure it scares me to bring someone else in. It'll change the whole thing. And then it just immediately like thinking about it, I was like, yeah, this is the whole fucking point we met in the wild. Yeah. Let's do it.
And then I was sitting at dinner and I was waiting and then I started kind of bringing it up and then I was like, what do you wanna do it? And you were like, fuck, I knew you were gonna ask me that. So I saw Heather make the Girl Undrunk page. Oh yeah. Probably like. [00:50:00] Six months prior. So like, I knew you wanted to do a podcast.
Mm-hmm. And so, like, I knew that was something that you were gonna do. And I was like, so excited because I knew that you would be great at it. Mm-hmm. I was like, this is gonna be amazing. I can't wait. She wasn't saying like, when things were starting yet for her, and I was like, ah, she's probably gonna ask me like, to do at least like an episode.
Mm-hmm. Or two. So I, I was expecting that. But then when you asked me to do, be like a co-host, a co-host, I was like. Oh my God. It's like, I thought it was just gonna be an episode ask. And I was like, okay. We were talking about this yesterday that I was like, I don't even remember you fully agreeing to it. I didn't like, we just were like, let's try an episode.
I was like, okay, maybe like, I'll try an episode and see how I feel. And then I went and talked to all my friends about it and everyone was like, yes, you have to do this. Like, this would be so good for you. I can picture you doing this. Um, so that was [00:51:00] reassuring. Mm-hmm. And I think that made me more prepared to say yes.
Yeah. And when we did the trial episode, which was just a real episode Yeah. That the first one didn't go out. It didn't go out, but it ended, it was like a real episode. Yeah. And then I, yeah, I signed a contract for 10 episodes, so I gotta leave. Yeah. You got, you had to leave 15 episode 15 episodes ago. Yeah.
I'll be suing you later. Okay, perfect. Um, but yeah, like I. I did fall in love with it Uhhuh. And I think that I am so grateful that you wanted me to be a little cohost. What? What? Whoa Zoe. No, it made so much fucking sense. 'cause it was like I walked into your skincare clinic. I was such a weird manic Miss Big.
And I was like, so, and meeting, meeting you in the wild. Mm-hmm. It just feels like that is the whole thing. Yeah. That's the point of this. We've like, now we've met girls on Instagram. Yeah. That I like love and I'm like, I feel like we're gonna be [00:52:00] friends. Yeah. I mean, they're gonna come to the event. They're gonna come to the event on September 6th and we're gonna be friends.
It's just so nice. It's the point of sobriety. Yeah. Like talking to me and sharing and having like a community of people is how we stay sober. Like that's how I stay sober at the meetings. Yeah. Through my community. And you are now part of like. A different community mm-hmm. Of sobriety than like the meetings.
Yeah. And, but it's the same thing. Yeah. It's just having a sober companion that understands how you felt and understands how you're feeling now. Yeah. Working it out together. I like knowing that there's some people who listen that are sober mm-hmm. And they're doing it. Yeah. And like, I just love, I think about them all the day, all the day, all the day.
I think about them all the time, all the time. Girls that like message us. I'm like, and they're probably fucking sober today. Yeah. Like, you're crushing it. It's so crushing it. Mm. It's just nice. I feel like I'm, it feels like it feels cozy. Mm-hmm. It feels nice. Yeah. And, um, where are we gonna take the podcast next?
What do you [00:53:00] envision for the ies? Well, we do wanna start some interviews. Yeah. So we're, we're gonna get. We're gonna figure out some sort of situation. I have to have Anne come in here and look at this space. Yeah. And see like what to do. 'cause we have to get a third mic in here. We have to get a, some seating arrangement.
Yeah. But it would be really fun to a start interviewing our friends. Yeah. And like either friends who knew us, friends who knew us. Friends who knew us now. Yeah. People that are sober, people that aren't sober have maybe had their own shit. Yeah. Also the mentals. We love the mentals. Yeah. All of my friends are mental.
Yeah. I wanna get into eating disorder stuff. Yeah. 'cause that's a huge part of my, my journey for sure. Yeah. Um, yeah, it would be fun to like. Hear from your friends. Yeah. And 'cause I know you now. Yeah. I don't, I didn't know you before. Yeah. So, and same with you. Like knowing Yeah. I think that would be very interesting.
Like knowing the friend that you were, 'cause I know the friend that you are now. Yeah. Which is like the [00:54:00] fucking best. You're such a good fucking friend. I would like to know what you were like before. Yeah. Because I can't even think of that. I think I was still a good friend. Like people kept me around because I was like, good, like mm-hmm.
I was still trying, I didn't like fuck off and like, okay. Yeah. Call anyone like bit like Yeah. Cuss anyone out. Yeah. But I, I think I just was scaring everybody. Mm-hmm. And people were like coming to a point of like, I don't wanna be scared about her. Yeah. And like, I can't be around someone who is continually scaring me.
Yeah. So it's not good. I think it was just hard for that reason. Uhhuh. But yeah, I agree. I think like having guests on is gonna. Be great. Have the podcast grow. I think we're getting a social media girl in. Yeah. Which is also exciting. We do. We have a new social girl coming. Social girl. Social girl. Coming next week.
Yeah. Well she's coming to the event. Maybe she's coming. She's coming to the event. Maybe Alani. I'm so excited. It's crazy. I'm [00:55:00] excited to meet her. We're our team is growing. I know. Yeah. It's so weird. It's so crazy. Everything. And like, shout out Anne, 'cause Yeah. Truly Holy fuck. Holding our hands through this.
Yeah. It's so nice at, I feel like everyone has a role. Mm-hmm. And we're just doing it well and we love each other and it's nice. DJ's amazing. Yeah. I think, um, it would be great to start having experts on Yeah. Because I feel like we've talked about so much that I'm like, I, I'm ready to be told what is actually the truth.
Yeah. And not what just is made up in our minds in terms of like addiction too, of like Yeah. Why it happens and like the difference between like. Like it's generational. Mm-hmm. Or it's, or it's trauma. Mm-hmm. Chemical compounds. What happens to your brain? What happened to our fucking brain? Yeah. Like I would like to start, start.
I would love to do a brain scan one day with you. I wanna go to Turkey and get the full body scan. Okay. And find out what's going on. I'm done. I, that would terrify me though, because what if I was riddled with disease? Um, yeah. I'm just like excited for where it's going. [00:56:00] Yeah. But I feel really, I feel really like nostalgic even mm-hmm.
About the past 25 episodes. Like, it's so cool. Even just how much we've grown now, I can't imagine for the next 25. It's gonna be really interesting to see what we do with it, because I think we can go so many places with this podcast and like, help, help so many people. Mm-hmm. And I wanna like, travel around.
I feel like some things, like a thing that would be really hard for me to do is go back to like New York and Boston. Mm-hmm. 'cause I just. Gave up my whole life. Like, that was everything to me. And I gave it up and I ha I've been back. No, I haven't been back to either since I stopped dancing, except with my ex.
I went to New York and that was hard, but I was drunk the whole time. Right. And then he broke up with me. So I'm like, well, yeah. Now we have multiple things going on. Yeah. We'll go back. We'll, I, yeah, there are some people We'll go around. We'll vlog it. We'll vlog it. There's some people I wanna interview. I have a friend, Gabby, who is amazing, and she's a family therapist now.
Mm-hmm. But [00:57:00] like, we were in school together and eating disorders were fucking rampant. Mm-hmm. And now like, she's so cool. And she has a baby and she's a therapist. Yeah. And I, I have another friend who, same thing. And now like, she's the therapist. So it's so interesting to see, like, we all went through shit.
Yeah. All of us truly. And how everyone has kind of come out of it. That's what I wanna know. Yeah. How you wanna have these conversations surviving. Yeah. Yeah. So, and eating disorders are different than sobriety. It's still an addiction in a way, and it's still like a severe mental health issue. And it's, and a lot of the time for girls, at least with addiction, like they do go hand in hand.
Yeah. Like a lot of people in the meetings do talk about like, eating and mm-hmm. How it plays a part. Yeah. Same with like sex, you know? Same with everything. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel really excited and like, there's so much going on. We have like a little event coming up at Zero Bar. Yeah. Our first event, like, I feel like we're making a cute community on Instagram.
There's I think so too. There's like people I just wanna like, talk to and be friends with and Yeah. I'm just so proud of us. Me too. Like, I think that we're [00:58:00] proud of, we have a great job. Our team. Proud of you. Proud of me. We're feeling good. We're feeling good. So stay tuned. Yeah. Stick around please. Love you.
For, um, for the 25th episode, we wanted to, uh, do something a little fun and special. Yeah. Now this is kind of hard for us because Zoe and I like have already said so many fucking, we confess so much. Yeah. And I forget what makes it in. Yeah. And what. Gets cut. I do too. I mean, I do have a confession from yesterday that literally just happened.
Okay, tell me, so we're gonna do little confessions and then you guys sent us some confessions over Instagram. First of all, I love you all. You're all gross idiots. Same though. Literally. Same. Still literally same. But like LOLI love. Yeah. I just love that people can message us and say disgusting things.
Yeah. In like, but it's like so funny and real. Yeah. I mean, don't send us dick pics. We got that. Don't like it. But like you don't want that. It's so funny to [00:59:00] just be like. Shit on this. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, that's how, yeah. Of course we, we fucking talk. It's so good. Yeah. Okay. I can start with my confession that happened yesterday.
Okay. Go. But it's kind of a baby one, so no one get upset with me yesterday. We literally tell crazy shit all the time. They can't be upset. That's true. Yeah. I have my period. Ooh. And, um, I usually wear period underwear, but I just have been like such a slacker on like, the laundry. Yeah. And so I'm like, whatever, we're going to boxing.
And when I wear my period under with boxing, I'm like, it makes me look like I'm wearing a diaper. I don't love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, I don't have tampons in the house. I don't keep them in the house just like meat. I don't keep meat in the house. Mm-hmm. And I asked Zoe, I said, can you bring me a tampon?
Now Zoe and I were boxing in the park yesterday, and I don't go into public washrooms because Ooh. But I was like, yeah, in the car on the way there. I'm like, how am I gonna put this? Tampon in. I was like, yeah, Zoe's gonna gimme this tampon. I'm gonna put, I'm gonna figure out how to get it in. Yeah. So I come over, I was in my [01:00:00] car and I was a little late 'cause I was like, maybe Zoe can come over to my car and then I can just close the door.
Mm-hmm. But then I was like, you know what, let's figure this out. So I walked over to the bench, Zoe's sitting there with Rachel, Rachel's training someone else, and Zoe's doing her little wraps. And I said, hello, do you have a tampon for me? She said, yeah. And then I was like, I'm gonna just do it here. And Zoe goes, go to your car, go to get the car.
I was like, the car's all the way over there. I was like, I can do it, I think. So I just sat down next to Zoe and then undid the tampon and then just put my hand in my pants and fully put a tampon up inside me at the park with multiple people around. No one saw No, there was like. 30 people behind us.
Mm-hmm. Playing basketball. Mm-hmm. Rachel and the co, the person she was training was right in front of us. They didn't know, like two feet away. They didn't notice. She did it very sly, very slick. It was very fast. I was shocked. Were you impressed? I was impressed. Thank you so much. I was, I was shocked personally that you wanted me to go back to my car or that you thought I would've never thought to just [01:01:00] do it in the park.
It's a crazy thing to do. Mind you, I didn't have a tampon in. Yeah. I just had like a wad of toilet paper sh up inside me. Yeah. So if I had had a, if I had had one in, that would've been a more difficult gross maneuver. Yeah. But I feel pretty proud of myself. That's crazy. That's a crazy thing. I know. I, it was a crazy thing to witness.
I was like, what the fuck? Okay. We're doing it. It was, we're doing it. It, it felt like a Zoey thing to do, you know? I mean, I have shit in the park multiple times. So. We'll, we'll do that one. Is that your confession? I guess so. Go ahead. Tell us. Tell tell us. Uh, so everyone knows the baseball diamond at Trinity Bellwood.
Mm-hmm. And, um, Trinity Bellwood, well, it's, it's called like the dugout, where people like sit while they like wait to be the next batter. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Before they go up for their performance. Yeah, exactly. Um, me and my ex, we were going out somewhere like, [01:02:00] probably around Ossington, and we were walking through the park and we had just done like a lot of blow.
And the blow that I was doing was definitely cut with baby laxatives and like, mix with drinking. Like I would have to poop all the time. Mm-hmm. And if it wa I wasn't gonna poop, then I couldn't hold it. Mm-hmm. I was never holding my poops. I was pooping everywhere. Is this, was this like diarrhea, poop or was this like a solid poop?
Probably more diarrhea. Little poop. Okay. Yeah. More diarrhea. Like un holdable kind of. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I was like. Went to around the baseball diamond, 'cause that's where the bathrooms were. But the bathrooms were locked. Hey. And it was probably on house. People need to poop. Eight 30 maybe. They closed the bathrooms at eight.
So it was like still daylight out. 'cause it was during the summer and I fully just like pooped at the dugout. So what did you do? You walked over to the dugout? Yeah. You said this is the decision I'm making. I'm making this decision. I told my ex, I was like, I'm just gonna poop over there. Were people [01:03:00] around?
Yes. Okay. 'cause it's eight, you said what time? 8:30 PM Like the sun was starting to set. It's like prime time. Yeah. So you went over to the dugout? Yeah. Were there people playing baseball in that area? No. Okay. So that was picture. No one was playing baseball, but like people were in the park like they were.
And did you have a dress on or a skirt on? I don't think so. Okay. So you had to drop trow? Yeah. And then shit in the park? Yeah. Were you in a squat position? Yep. Okay. I don't remember white boyfriend covering you. I told my boyfriend to like, look away. Okay. I told him to not look. I mean Yeah. 'cause we're classy.
We're so classy. I don't poop buddy. I just, I lo the thing is like when you're drunk and you have to poop as an IBS girly. Yeah. And I, when you gotta go, you gotta go. Exactly. And that's how it was for me. Even now, like in sobriety, it's a little bit like that, but the array, constipation pills are really helping.
Shadow array. Please sponsor us. Honestly, we we're keeping you in business. We through we do that stuff. [01:04:00] We really do. We really do. Oh gosh. Um, yeah. So I think that was like one of the low points of that. Yeah. Time. And then you just kind of like get up and walk away and nobody saw, I wasn't looking around because I didn't wanna see, I've made that mistake before.
Once I peed on the street and accidentally made eye contact with a couple while I was peeing. And so I've made that mistake before. So I knew not to just keep my head down, don't look at anybody and no one. We'll see, I made eye contact with my dog the other day when I was having sex and I didn't like it.
Oh God. It's similar but different. 'cause what you're doing is illegal. Yeah, it's illegal I think to be, it is. It is illegal. Well I was telling you that when I was, don't, don't come for me. I'm really impressed by that. 'cause like you just sometimes have to do what you have to do Now. Listen, I'm constantly yelling about how many people take shits on the street.
Yeah. This is a city where we live in the city where people take shits on the street and most of the shit you see is not from a dog. Yeah. I have a dog I can tell. Yeah. But again, we're talking about Trinity Bellwood a major park with [01:05:00] public washroom and they close them. Eight 30, fuck off. It's not my problem.
It's literally not. If you don't want people to shit on the street, also, fuck you. Put sharps containers in there. Keep 'em open. Yeah. Have a few giant men who secure the park and like walk around being secure. Yeah. So nobody gets like stabbed. No, that could definitely, like they could definitely do more for that.
Yes. So that I didn't have to poop in the park. Yes. It's crazy. Look, subjugating this little one to poop in the park. Asshole out. I'm so sorry. She's really sorry. And then the kids who came to play baseball the next day. Oh yeah. Okay. So price. And that was a definitely like a smelly poop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It happens.
Well, I realize and I have a hot summer's day. Ooh. I always wonder I, a hot summer's day, I always wonder, like with people that are unhoused, I'm like, and the fentanyl or the meth or the drugs in your system. I I There has to be more bathrooms around. Yeah. There has to be, there [01:06:00] has be a hundred percent and yeah.
They shouldn't, they can't be locking them. There should be a patrol at every park. Yeah. That could be fun. That could be, could. Sitting on a porcelain toilet is literally a human right. Yeah. It should be in the constitution. Um, okay. What are the confessions that we got? This is a good one. I like this. Okay.
Peed on my boyfriend's roommate's chair. 'cause I thought it was a toilet and I don't even remember roommate's boyfriend's chair. Mm-hmm. Say it again. I peed on my boyfriend's boyfriend's roommate's chair. So she was staying in her boyfriend's house? Yeah. Sat on her, his roommate's chair and pissed on it.
'cause I thought it was a toilet. Oh yeah. That is a story that I've heard far too often. Yeah. It, but you used to pee. Oh, I peed everywhere. Had you ever s did you ever do that where you thought you were sitting on a toilet and pee? I don't think so. Okay. I think I just always just. Let it rock in the bed.
Damn. Let it rock in the bed. Yeah. Your body knew. You're like, I don't have to pee on this chair 'cause I'm going to bed in my pee mattress. Oh God. Yeah. I blacked out, lost my [01:07:00] phone downtown, and a garbage truck driver tracked me down and gave it back. That's so nice of him. Oh my god. That is a saint. A saint.
Yeah, that's, I would've given him like a bunch of cash. I'd be like, this feels like small town shit though. Yeah. This would never fucking happen here. Never. No. No. I would always, when I lost my phone on Uber's, I would always have to go to like North York to get it back or like to Scarborough to get it back.
Because you were tracking it? No, like they would text me and be like, Hey, you left your phone, or they would. They would somehow like call, my friends would call and they'd be like, yeah, I have my, their phone. Like, I'm at this address. She can come and pick it up. They would never bring it to me. Right. So I'd always have to make missions everywhere to grab my phone.
I guess it makes sense if you're a garbage man and you're like, well, that's my route anyway. But that is the nicest thing. That's small town shit I've ever heard in my life. So sweet. Because here I think they would just, they would just throw garbage on you. Yeah. And they would just like take it and sell it.
Yeah. Yeah. By the way, as you should. Yeah. Get your, get your bag. Um, okay, the [01:08:00] last one. Hmm. Buried. Buried. My great-grandmother went straight to the local dive bar after I was 17. Totally respect. I mean, I get it. Listen, I was like blackout for most of my grandma dying and that was really sad. Were you okay?
When was that? Yeah, I think I was, must have been 16 or 17. Okay. Did you respond to the prompt? Is that you? No, that wasn't me. It was my grandmother, not my great grandma. Right, right, right, right. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. To be so tragically upset that your great-grandmother died. I never had a great-grandmother.
Never. Well, of course in the lineage, but no. You like you knew them. Yep. Oh, wow. I never knew my great-grandfathers, my great-grandmother, so I knew though now they're both dead, but I think the last one died maybe five years ago. She lived, oh my god. She lived a long life to how old? 90 something. Oh my god.
Mine didn't make it like that. Yeah. But you know, they were poor. Um, [01:09:00] I think that has a lot to do with that. You only eat potatoes and cigarettes, I think, oh shit. That I'm not gonna do well, potato, cigarettes and vodka. Yeah, it is. That makes sense to me. Yeah, I, that makes sense to me. Like that is the ultimate if like, and also when people relapse after someone dies, I'm like, I fucking get it.
Yeah. It, it sucks it, but sometimes things are just so. Difficult. Yeah. But like you just have to be prepared for that. Yeah. When you're 17, you're not, no. Obviously, no. You just want it to go away. Um, but yeah, it's a very real thing that can happen. Mm-hmm. At any moment. And you just have to like know that Were you going to visit your grandmother when it was happening?
Yeah. And you were drinking. Yeah. I just like don't remember being present with her at all at the end. Yeah. Because I was too like thinking about my boyfriend or the drinking or whatever I was like wanting to do outside of that. Yeah. And it was probably a coping mechanism. Sure. But I regret it. Yeah, of course it was a hundred percent.
But I know she's with me, she forgives me. [01:10:00] And same to your great-grandmother as well? Oh no, I'm talking about her, not you. Oh yeah. I was like mine. I, mine doesn't care. I don't know if mine would be thrilled. Yeah. My mom's grandmother, no way she would like me. Yeah. She used to call her own daughter a cova, which means slut.
Oh. So I don't think she would like. Me. Definitely not. And then my, my dad's, I think my dad's grandmother was probably lovely, but she fell, hit her back. She had a stroke, hit her head on the, on the tub, and then was never the same. Oh, that sucks. Yeah. Whoops. Whoopsies. Um, well, okay. Thank you guys so much for submitting those confessions.
'cause that was so fun. We should do that often. Yeah. Whenever we have like a big episode, we'll ask you to write in confessions. Mm-hmm. I would love for that to be a segment. It is so fun. Yeah. We could make it a segment too at the end. We wanna do it for Halloween. Yeah. Like Halloween. Think about your stories.
What's like a crazy, it doesn't have to be necessarily like the thing that made you like, now I have to [01:11:00] stop drinking. Who gives a fuck? It can be like so many things. Yeah. You know, you're still a good person if you have a bad past. So like, just tell us your weird drunk stories. Whatever happened to you on Halloween?
We'll take it. Okay. Okay. I'll go drive you to work now. Oh, thanks. I love you. I love you. I love you. And I'm proud of you guys. I'm proud of you guys. Love you guys so much. Thank you so much for being here for 25 episodes. It's fucking crazy. Beyond our wildest dreams. Those podcasts don't make it past eight episodes.
That is really good to know. It's like 90%. Oh wow. Then we're making it forever then. Hey. Yeah. I think this is a good time to buy a yacht. Probably not yet. You're right. Okay. Zoe's parents are financial advisor, so Zoe said, not a yacht yet. I said, yeah, I see it in the future though, we're, I hope we stay friends forever and if we ever need to go to couples therapy, we can do that.
And that is, or we just box each other like men do. Oh. Fight it out. She wants to punch me. But we do. That's a big conversation, Zoe and I have. Yeah. We're like, we've seen it happen. Podcasts, friendships, break up. I've seen my own [01:12:00] family fucking mm-hmm. Break up because of business. I don't wanna do it. No, you're my best friend.
We'll go a couple therapy together. Whatever we need to do, we will do it. Um, yeah, and if there's like a little tiff we'll we'll tell you and we'll talk about it on the pod. 'cause like we, people should be allowed to look into that as well. Yeah. You'll come in and say, listen, we got a big issue. 'cause Heather's been a real fucking bitch.
Probably not. Probably not. Okay. Okay. I am proud of you. Proud of you. Bye. Love you. Bye
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You're a little bitch. I like it. Okay, so that doesn't hurt [01:13:00] you. No, it doesn't. Okay.
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